Posted By: Paul | Interviews | 13 Comments
A year ago I kicked off our PA vs MD section with a video interview of my classmate, Sundance. Before starting PA school at UC Davis School of medicine, she was a medical student there, and chose to switch paths. When she first spoke on camera we were just one quarter into our PA training. She spoke with me again today to give us an update as a second year PA student with somewhat more perspective. As always, she was candid, and shared some great insights about what physician assistant education is really like.
PA vs MD: Sundance Second Year PA Student Interview
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These are great interviews with Sundance. I like her honesty. I’d be interested in hearing about her experience (or others) in PA school while raising a young child. How did she get her studying in and be a good parent? When did she study? The idea of being in PA school while raising a family is daunting, but I know it can be done. I’d like to know how other students have done it.
Paul & Sundance,
You have provided us with another wonderfully informative interview. I wholly appreciate being given such great insight through the informal tone & Sundance’s candid responses.
Thank you for taking the time to share your experiences.
- Nicole
Thanks, Nicole - we really lucked out finding Sundance. Glad the interview was helpful!
Thank you Paul and Sundance for providing your experiences throughout the program. I am nervous about starting UC Davis’ program this summer, but after listening and reading about your two experiences, I feel more excited. Keep up the the good work and I am an avid supporter of this wonderful site!
Hey Paul and Sundance,
Thank you both so much for these interviews! I’m especially grateful for the insight into work/life balance. I’m in the early stages of completing prerequisites and accruing HCE and I have an 8-month-old, so I very well may be 33 with a 2.5 year old when I’m in PA school too. It’s so helpful and heartening to see that it can be done. Thanks again, and best of luck to you both in your final quarter!
Great video, thank you both for sharing!
Thanks, Carl! I’ll pass your words on to Sundance.
First off these videos are great and I thank you and Sundance for some excellent insight. I am currently finishing my undergrad as a health science student, and am trying to find summer jobs that deal with direct patient care. Most of these require to be certified or take month long classes (EMT,message therapist, etc.)… Although I am certified in first aid and CPR, I am having difficulty finding the right summer job as nurse assistants and physical therapist assistants also require you to have completed certified programs. I have applied to a few hospitals as patient transporters but most of them do not want seasonal employees.
Any tips or ideas would be very appreciated.
Also, if you have any experience or know any one experienced with the NHSC (National Health Service Corps) as I’m looking into their loan repayment program.
Thank you so much for sharing your insight! I’m 26, 4 years out of undergrad, and have been accepted to an osteopathic medical school for 2012. But I’m trying to take a good, honest look at myself, what I want in a work/life balance, and whether the medical school path is truly for me. I do not currently have a family, and while I’m fairly certain I don’t want children, I know I want a partner. I also know that I have interests outside of medicine that I would like a bit of time on the side to explore.
I’ve always wanted my career to be a big part of who I am. The only role I’ve truly felt comfortable in is serving others, doing my part to alleviate disparities. But if a medical school path is truly going to consume ALL of me to a point where I feel depersonalized, then I don’t know that I will even have the energy to fill the role I want to.
Didn’t mean for that to turn into a marathon comment, but thanks for letting me share, and any advice you have would be super appreciated. Best of luck with the rest of your education!
PA and MD can be very time consuming. Most PAs I’ve met love their job, but they do feel they’re worked extensively. So there’s a cost. You should take a good inventory of what you want. Is it flexibility or income. The two don’t usually match UNLESS you choose a specialty that allows for it. RN offers a work schedule that allows you to be off during the week. But he money is not what advance care practs(NP/PA)/MDs earn. My psych and derm friends have had jobs where they can have some 4-day weeks. But in my research and experience it seems I’m finding that (nursing -to-) nurse practitioner may offer a lot of opportunities to complement clinical care with the flexibility to switch from clinical to non clinical. There’s clinic nurse educator, clinical nurse specialists, community health care, etc. I haven’t decided myself whether or not I will purse advanced care practice as a NP vs. PA. But I do know there are more flexible education options with NP. Right now there’s only full time, exclusive 8-5 programs with PA. MD programs have packed class schedules but students aren’t always mandated to attend classes in med school like they are in nearly all PA programs. Sometimes we just haven’t discovered the ideal path. The only problem I see with nursing so far is, they’re knowledge level is very high and they make recommendations, which physicians most often agree with and direct the RN, PA, or NP to implement. So if you can’t handle being perceived as less knowledgeable by those outside of healthcare then I say MD Is the way to go. By the time you go back to school, which you will most likely do either for a doctorate or another master’s degree, you could easily finish med school.
Overall healthcare still functions as a tiered system because everyone has to stay within their scope of practice. Nurses can not give medical diagnoses, BUT they can treat many of the symptoms.. Also, In schools, PAs/NPs get taught more medical science than nurses, nurses get taught a lot of human response to conditions and physician-prescribed care (they can do many things independently but for many things they can also simply request an order from the doctors. Doctors get taught more extensive medical science and application than PA’s/NP’s. What you actually learn and teach yourself in practice that will make your career satisfying is going to be up to you. I agree with the blogger. Most are happy with what they choose. Any one of these careers can require a great deal of knowledge, time, and energy. Just pick the one that gives you the flexibility you want, specificay planning on the time you will want it most. If you don’t want huge flexibility until 8 years down the road-then do what you chose. Dont worry about the rest. You will have more options to choose from when that time comes (even if it means slightly less pay). I met a lady the other day who completed all her med school recently, but just as soon decided she wanted to be a stay at home mom.
Love the video. Great evaluation of the PA student life. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks, Acacia!
Hopefully we get a Sundance update!